Is it better to make a grand final and lose it, or just not make it at all?

As a Dragons fan, I'm experienced with fine seasons ending in crushing failure. I've had the dubious privilege of watching us lose the 1985, 1992, 1993, 1996 and 1999 grand finals. I saw all but the 92 defeat in person. This was when I really cared about rugby league to boot!

I also saw us lose the 1984 preliminary final, where we lost to a last minute try after Kevin Roberts gave Parramatta 2 dodgy penalties. In truth, this was more devastating than all the grand final defeats except 99. 85 was horrible but wasn't as raw as 84 was. 85 just made 84 worse as we had Steve Rogers then and might have handled Canterbury better than we ultimately did.

I have great memories of every grand final qualifier that we won and then subsequently lost the grand final. They're all among the highlights of my many years of going to the footy and being a committed supporter. Sure it would have been nice to pick up a premiership when my passion was higher (I would have slept just fine had the Chooks roasted us in 2010) but I got a lot of great moments out of those runner up seasons.

Making a grand final is a great achievement and it's exciting! You could win the premiership! Even when I knew we had fuck all chance of winning I was excited we were there. I was really nervous prior to 85, I just had this feeling we weren't going to play well. I felt pretty good in 99. We had the better team, after all. I kept right on feeling good until early in the 2nd half when it was obvious that we had come out badly. That was one of the worst in-game experiences ever because the whole half was a fucking train wreck. In 1985 we knew that the 6-0 halftime lead was probably going to be enough as Canterbury were dominating and had near flawless defence.

 We weren't favourites the other 3 times so I was more relaxed. I had some hope going into 93 because we had been playing so well and we were such a disciplined unit but I was always a bit concerned about the gulf in class. We copped some injuries on the day which didn't help but the opposition were definitely our biggest problem. 

For me, as bad as those losses were, they're still a memorable experience, which is part of the point of following a sports team. The semi final wins you get in the lead up also create great memories. You can't win it if you're not there! 

The last 12 seasons, where St George Illawarra have rarely threatened to make the semis, and haven't come within cooee of the top 4 by and large, have been a crashing bore as a supporter. Granted, I'm nowhere near the committed obsessive I once was, but surely even for the nutcases there's been very little to remember. I still watch and get into State of Origin and the semi-finals, so I haven't lost complete interest in the game and could certainly make more memories should the Dragons ever deign to be a competitive unit that challenges for premierships again.

What about you? Would you prefer to see your favourite sports team being a regular challenger for titles, even if they lose a fair bit? Or would you prefer to avoid the pain of defeat and just poke their heads up every so often to win a title and slump back into painless mediocrity? 

NRL Thoughts: State of Origin I

Watch out Queensland, Blues on their way!

It was another titanic clash, but this time, for once, despite so many 50-50 calls coming up Queensland's way, New South Wales have managed to take themselves into the lion's den of Suncorp Stadium and come away with a superb victory!

It was a magnificent second half effort in defence that proved the decisive factor, although NSW will surely regret some missed opportunities when they were on top to extend the lead. Dragon superstar winger Brett Morris was superb in defence in the 2nd half despite hurting his shoulder when scoring in the first half! His effort to prevent Darius Boyd from tying the game up could be long remembered - if NSW win the series.

There was no question that the key for NSW was Jarryd Hayne, a constant menace in attack, very heavily involved, while also defusing numerous Queensland raids with aplomb. How good is this man?!

Queensland played well, although they probably lost some of their fluency in attack due to Cronk's injury. Cherry-Evans looked far from overawed though and will only be better for the run. I can't imagine too many NSW fans thinking anything other than this is going to be a tough task to get that second win and clinch the series

I was thinking in the first 20 minutes that maybe the intensity of this game wasn't that far above that of an ordinary game, but it just got tougher and tougher as the game went on. Josh Reynolds, who performed capably in his first game as a starting five-eighth, seemed a little awestruck when commenting immediately after the game about just how tough it was, how he'd never played a game like it. Reynolds has played a grand final, he's played big games, but even so this was something else.NSW haven't been good enough to win very often this last 10 years, but very few of those losses have been thrashings. So often they've given us hope.

Origin provides a level of the game that is simply unmatched, as is perhaps reflected in how many players get injured, there was no shortage of walking wounded among those who didn't end up in hospital. I thought the Bulldogs players in the NSW side were superb, with the partial exception of Tony Williams, a player that one is always expecting to destroy an opposition with his obvious pace and power, only to be disappointed by how rarely it actually happens. I do wonder though, what price will the Bulldogs pay for the obvious intensity that their players brought to this contest. In 2011 St George were going swimmingly into Origin, half our team got picked and after the series our season imploded.  And that's hardly a rare event for teams that are heavily involved in Origin.

Well, we're onto Sydney, it's been 11 years since NSW took Game 1 in Brisbane, and we won that year. Could this be a turning point in our long period of inferiority to the Cane Toads? Go the Blues!

NRL Thoughts - Steve Price - This is the end.

This time it's my club that's pulled the pin on a coach and fired him. After 6 losses in 7 games, with the last three being absolute thrashings characterised by shoddy ball control and feeble defence, St George Illawarra sacked head coach Steve Price this morning, effective immediately, with assistant coach Paul McGregor stepping into the head coach position for the remainder of the season.

This wasn't an unexpected decision, despite St George's history of not sacking coaches mid season - they haven't done it before. Ever. They've sacked premiership winning coaches at the end of a season, but they normally do it at the end.  It's been clear for a long time that they weren't happy with what Steve Price had to offer, having made a huge offer to Craig Bellamy last year in a bid to entice him to sign. Price was only given this season after Bellamy knocked them back. I read stories last year stating the most of the recruitment decisions for this year were made by Peter Doust and Craig Young with Price having minimal input into those decisions. Nevertheless, as is usual in professional sports, he's the one who gets the axe.

As an interested but not obsessed fan, there's hasn't been a lot to indicate that Price had the makings of a top class coach, he didn't seem to know how to use Jamie Soward and there wasn't a lot of imagination in attack over his first two seasons. Whilst we now have a Rolls Royce backline, the forwards are weak, and the overall package isn't working. Consequently I don't have any major issues with the decision, the last 3 games indicated that we were a long way off being competitive and I think that the side should be competitive with that roster. There was a lot of talk in Price's first season about maintaining our defensive culture, but it was obvious even then that it had gone and wasn't coming back.

I always feel sympathy for the fallen in these situations. By all accounts, Steve Price is a hard worker and a very good, kind, man. I have no doubt that he's poured his heart and soul into the job these last 2 and a bit years and that the lack of success has hurt him as much as anyone. Failure is always hard to deal with and being declared a failure in such a blunt manner has to hurt. I hope that he finds his way back into an assistant coaching position at another club, it may well be that he is more suited to those at this stage of his coaching career. He probably won't get another NRL position, but he's young enough to develop more skills and hope that luck comes his way.

Looking forward, I'm hoping that Saints can find an experienced coach to take them forward and that they can develop a long term recruiting plan, there's been little evidence of a plan in recruitment decisions in recent years. I'd be happy with Bennett returning or Bellamy changing his mind. I probably wouldn't be that keen on Paul McGregor getting the job as he's not experienced at head coach level, and we've tended to struggle with inexperienced coaches. That said, if results turned around, he'd have to be a chance of getting the job. Nathan Brown's record wasn't too bad actually, but he may have managed to win premierships had he possessed the experience he has subsequently acquired. If the Tigers don't want Michael Potter, I'd love to have him back.

Somewhat unusually for a sports fan, the long awaited premiership in 2010 really did sate my appetite, and the fact we've taken a big tumble hasn't particularly bothered me, it's a tough competition to win and if you have to risk subsequent seasons to get that win, well it's worth it. Steve Price was unlucky and hopefully his successors will have better opportunities to achieve NRL success!